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		<title>Looks like I need a new &#8220;Source&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://knockoffs.olya.org/2009/12/04/looks-like-i-need-a-new-source/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 17:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>olya</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, looks like DWR started carrying knock-offs themselves. FastCompany wrote an excellent article on the matter: &#8220;The Rise and Fall of Design Within Reach&#8220;.
I am not too surprised, but it sounds like they are going to turn themselves around &#8211; or at least try. The article is definitely worth a read if you are interested ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, looks like <a href="http://www.dwr.com/home.do">DWR</a> started carrying knock-offs themselves. <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com">FastCompany</a> wrote an excellent article on the matter: &#8220;<a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/node/1460614/print">The Rise and Fall of Design Within Reach</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>I am not too surprised, but it sounds like they are going to turn themselves around &#8211; or at least try. The article is definitely worth a read if you are interested in the world of furniture ideas and theft.</p>
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		<title>Target is shameless</title>
		<link>http://knockoffs.olya.org/2008/05/07/target-is-shameless/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 04:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>olya</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Couches and seating]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Target discussion on Blue Ant Studio.
It&#8217;s one thing, in my mind, to create a cheaper version of a design borrowing on similar characteristics. See IKEA&#8217;s candle holders &#8211; they are not as heavy or as colorful as Iitalia&#8217;s. It is another to totally copy something.
Maybe the line is blurry.
I love the chair poster and have ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blueantstudio.blogspot.com/2008/05/target-vs-designers-shame-less-v22-23.html">Target discussion on Blue Ant Studio</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing, in my mind, to create a cheaper version of a design borrowing on similar characteristics. See <a href="http://knockoffs.olya.org/2007/12/31/where-ikeas-votive-candle-holder-originated/">IKEA&#8217;s candle holders</a> &#8211; they are not as heavy or as colorful as Iitalia&#8217;s. It is another to totally copy something.</p>
<p>Maybe the line is blurry.</p>
<p><small>I love the <a href="http://blueartstudio.blogspot.com/2007/12/alphabet-of-design-classics.html">chair poster</a> and have it hanging on my wall.</small></p>
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		<title>discussion of fake versus real</title>
		<link>http://knockoffs.olya.org/2008/02/02/discussion-of-fake-versus-real/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>olya</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[an interesting discussion of which is a better purchase &#8211; a knock off, or the real thing, with some example: design hole: fake not fabulous, and the original thread
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>an interesting discussion of which is a better purchase &#8211; a knock off, or the real thing, with some example: <a href="http://designhole.blogspot.com/2007/12/fake-not-fabulous.html">design hole: fake not fabulous</a>, and <a href="http://designhole.blogspot.com/2007/03/chair-of-day_21.html">the original thread</a></p>
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		<title>discussion of knock-offs</title>
		<link>http://knockoffs.olya.org/2007/09/22/discussion-of-knock-offs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>olya</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Couches and seating]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apartment Therapy mentions another knock off &#8211; the CB Ripple chair for $249 to Eames Group Management $1298  chair.
The thread is interesting for its articulate discussion of what a knock off is and whether it is a good or a bad thing. My personal stand is that knowingly buying a direct knock off &#8211; i.e. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/good-questions/good-questions-do-you-prefer-the-eames-groups-or-cbs-office-chair-032193">Apartment Therapy mentions</a> another knock off &#8211; the <a href="http://www.crateandbarrel.com/family.aspx?c=1080&amp;f=24062">CB Ripple chair for $249</a> to <a href="http://www.dwr.com/productdetail.cfm?id=0042">Eames Group Management $1298  chair</a>.</p>
<p>The thread is interesting for its articulate discussion of what a knock off is and whether it is a good or a bad thing. My personal stand is that knowingly buying a direct knock off &#8211; i.e. an object that purports to be the original is kinda pointless. However, buying &#8220;indirect&#8221; design &#8211; such as the examples in this site which mimic closely but are yet different &#8211; is like buying H&amp;M or Forever 21. You know they took ideas from runways; sometimes quite directly (see Gwen Stefani&#8217;s L.A.M.B. and Forever 21); but they lack sufficiently in details, quality and price to make themselves a different object.</p>
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		<title>via AT: Shutter Storage Cabinet</title>
		<link>http://knockoffs.olya.org/2007/09/19/via-at-shutter-storage-cabinet/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>olya</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Bookcases]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saunter over to Apartment Therapy to read the discussion of a copycat of the Shutter Storage Cabinet (retailing for around $3,000 USD). Note the link to a JCPenney knock off in the comments&#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saunter over to <a href="http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/ny/shelving-storage/moreaffordable-alternative-shutter-storage-cabinet-031280">Apartment Therapy to read the discussion</a> of a copycat of the Shutter Storage Cabinet (retailing for around $3,000 USD). Note the link to a <a href="http://www3.jcpenney.com/jcp/ProductsDetailHom.aspx?LotNum=790-4549C&amp;InetMedia=FK&amp;GroupID=126bea7&amp;ReturnURL=HOME%7c40525%7c40770%7cLFS%7cG%7cENS%7c126bea4%7c5%7c19%7cfurniture%7cFurniture%7cStudio%7c40699%7cProductList&amp;CmCatId=EXTERNAL|40699|40770">JCPenney knock off</a> in the comments&#8230;</p>
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		<title>2 rooms by AT</title>
		<link>http://knockoffs.olya.org/2007/08/24/2-rooms-by-at/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 03:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>olya</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apartment Therapy has a interesting post building two rooms based on knock offs or similar furniture.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://chicago.apartmenttherapy.com/chicago/tables-dining-occasional/splurge-or-save-tulip-table-030441">Apartment Therapy</a> has a interesting post building two rooms based on knock offs or similar furniture.</p>
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		<title>A rose by any other name</title>
		<link>http://knockoffs.olya.org/2007/06/14/a-rose-by-any-other-name/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>olya</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, this is my blog. I&#8217;m going to try and document here my love of finding cheaply made knock-offs of designer furniture.  I know a number of objections can be raised to this.  I&#8217;ll deal with them a little later.
Right now my biggest problem is a lack of a name that I love ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, this is my blog. I&#8217;m going to try and document here my love of finding cheaply made knock-offs of designer furniture.  I know a number of objections can be raised to this.  I&#8217;ll deal with them a little later.</p>
<p>Right now my biggest problem is a lack of a name that I <em>love</em> for this website. So &#8211; ideas are welcome!</p>
<p>Now, onward to the concerns you might have:</p>
<p><span id="more-3"></span></p>
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<li><strong>Why do you steal money from the wonderful people who create stylish things by giving it to those who rip them off? </strong>As a very recently graduated student I am well familiar with the state of really-really wanting to live in a nice apartment, but with nearly no funds to do so. I dream of the day I can afford to buy myself a Bertoia or an Eames Eiffel chair. However, until that day comes I am perfectly willing to live with the cheaper versions. The designer version, in the virtue of being produced with love and care, is nearly always better made, and will last longer.</li>
<li><strong>Aren&#8217;t you an artist? Can&#8217;t you sympathize at the pain of being copied without credit? </strong>The whole point is to give credit where credit is due. Most people who shop in Ikea don&#8217;t realize where the vast amounts of things they love actually originate. Not to diminish the credit of Ikea&#8217;s designers; but there are a lot of knockoffs in Ikea&#8217;s arsenal. Here, at least, we can be educated on the original and true creators. They say imitation <em>is</em> the best form of flattery&#8230;</li>
<li><strong>But mass produced isn&#8217;t green!<br />
</strong>Ikea itself actually is <a title="Ikea's environmental policy" href="http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/about_ikea/social_environmental/environment.html">fairly green</a>. Target? Probably not so much. Fact of life is &#8211; when you&#8217;re poor (or in this case &#8220;not well off&#8221;) living green is not the highest priority. <strong>The best furniture resource for going green is garage sales</strong>. When I have time I look at those &#8211; and finding wonderful original and knockoffs is awesome, but does nothing for the greater good of sharing the roots of good design.</li>
<li><strong>This site is Ikea centric!<br />
</strong>Possibly; I am Toronto based and try to pick merchants that I could actually buy from. That excludes Target and Walmart websites for me (even though I still shall link to them out of sheer joy of finding a cheaper substitute).</li>
<li><strong>This website is US/Canada centric!<br />
</strong>Hopefully Canada more than the U.S. If you&#8217;d like me to find a cheaper version for another country, give me the name of the website which I can look at that would ship or sell there. Internet and all, but I still know very little about cheap furniture in Europe or Asia.</li>
<li><strong>I have an idea to post!<br />
</strong><a title="Email me" href="mailto:olya@olya.org">Please e-mail me!</a></li>
<li><strong>I have an idea for a better name for this website!<br />
</strong><a title="Email me" href="mailto:olya@olya.org">Please e-mail me!</a></li>
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